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I've lived 34 years, been highly educated, met all sorts of people around the world, and i still get so easily cheated of my money. I feel like a right fool.
Random A What happened? Where?
Random B :( !
CatOwner One dishevelled and rather fey man walks into my neighbourhood mcdonalds. says hi to the old lady opposite me and the old man behind me, and goes to get himself a cup of coffee. then he just walks up to me, taps my table, thrusts an open palm in front of my face and says "ay miss, give me 20 cents". most normal ppl would, judging the circumstances, tell this person to fuck off. but not me.
"i need it to make a phone call," he says.
"who still pays money to make a public phone call?" i question.
"aiya...i didn't bring my handphone!"
i hand him the money. he walked off. i don't think he even said thank you. but what i thought i DID hear a few moments later, was him telling the old man behind me in cantonese: "she looks like the stupid kind".
and boy, i certainly was, wasn't i. i mean, i can say things like i want to be kindhearted, i like to give ppl the benefit of the doubt if they say they need money, but the truth is i'm just bloody blind. i don't put 2 and 2 together. he could buy himself a cup of coffee but not have 20 cents??? why the fuck don't i see these things and add them up fast enough? i get put on the spot by someone who says he needs help, and i don't want to be a bastard by interrogating someone already humiliated by begging, or look like a selfish rich person brushing off the poor, and so i turn off my bullshit radar and take out my wallet like a zombie.
i don't get it: my mind works so quickly when calculating money. i am unscrupulous when checking clothes i buy. not even the tiniest flaw escapes my eye. but i can't see this neon orange elephant in the room?!? i don't want to go the other way and become this jaded skeptic who thinks ALL ppl who ask for money are con-artists, but i'm sick of being a sitting duck! what can i do about this? am i destined to be not-street-smart forever just coz i didn't learn the skills in my school-going years?
CatOwner another thing which pisses me off: the old man and old woman, watched this happen, and never said a thing. never stopped him, never warned me, nothing. bloody dog-eat-dog world, this is, ay? "he's my friend if he doesn't cheat ME, and if you're dumb enough to fall for THAT shit, you deserve to be fleeced". yup, beautiful world. good morning, CatOwner. now WAKE UP.
CatOwner (i know...it looks like a small incident. but i let this sort of thing happen to me all...the...time...)
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SieteOcho You mean you actually thought that you were doing the wrong thing by giving a bum 20c?
Isaac Newton Well at least its just 20cents and not a few bucks
CatOwner Random C, I know that's the case, but i cannot be happy to be made a fool of the rest of my life. this has got to stop.
SieteOcho, you are deliberately complicating the issue and setting up a trap for me by twisting my words and logic. "wrong"? no, but "dumb", yes. "bum"? define "bum".
CatOwner Isaac Newton, yup.
Random C CatOwner just heck care. nevermind, give, give as long as you can. You will get it back in other ways :)
SieteOcho No, you're the one who's complicating things. Some bum comes up to you and ask for - what - 20c. Based on available information, you can only tell he's a bum. (Define bum however you want to define it here.) Later on, he turns around and bites you. So you're confused. You should be lamenting the fact that he's turned out to be an asshole - an outcome that - how would anybody have forseen that? You shouldn't be regretting giving him the 20c. So don't learn the wrong moral of the story.
SieteOcho The real moral of the story is this: every time you are kind to a person, you run the risk of being made a fool. Understanding this risk is crucial to the understanding the meaning of kindness. If you expect that every kind act is going to be repaid with kindness, then you'd be better off being an asshole.
Isaac Newton What kind of warped logic is that? Glad i'm an asshole though
CatOwner it's not about "FOREseeing", SieteOcho. it's about SEEING what is right there AT THE TIME instead of ignoring the warning signs because one is pressured by expectations to be kind and perhaps even having a patronising view of those who you deem less fortunate than you. in my assumption that i HAVE to help someone who asks me for it, i failed to mentally evaluate if the call for help was genuine or if i was being taken for a ride. someone rude, with enough money to buy himself a cup a coffee (which i saw him holding) but doesn't have 20 cents? who said hi to ppl he knows around him but demands money from me, a total stranger? i actually think MOST ppl would have noticed these (except maybe you and me, since you also seemed to miss all these details in my original account).
you really are making too many assumptions and casting aspersions on my thought process and moral character. did i in any way say i expected this guy to REPAY my kindness? no. i know it doesn't work that way. what gives you the right to insinuate that i am an asshole (or would like to be)?
you really have missed what i was getting at here. i don't know how, but you have.
SieteOcho I didn't say that you're an asshole. I'm saying that if you don't understand the risks involved in being kind to somebody, you shouldn't be kind. You did not expect to be repaid, but surely you expected him to not call you out as a fool.
What I am saying, though, is that 20c is a very small sum compared to : 1. the mental effort you put into agonising whether the guy asking for help is genuine. 2. You agonising over this after this is over and getting upset.
When you handed over the 20c, that was not wrong, that was not foolish. The mental agony that you are expending over it - now THAT is foolish. Feeling like a fool just because somebody thinks that you are a fool - THAT is weakness. What you did wrong is that you did not walk away with your head held high and congratulate yourself on being a good person.
Isaac Newton It doesn't pay to be kind. Especially in front of self righteous people like those darn stompers.
SieteOcho What I've been trying to say is that there will always be assholes. Therefore that is the risk of being kind. And if you are kind to a lot of people, some of them will appreciate it, some of them will be assholes, on balance you will still gain. Therefore it doesn't hurt to be kind. THAT is the way the system works.
Isaac Newton Yeap they appreciate it so much they put gold taps in their toilets
CatOwner sigh, SieteOcho, no matter how much i've tried to explain it to you, you have misunderstood me, made assumptions and judgements about me, and given me wise philosophical instructions on how to fix myself.
look, even without you telling me, i do understand the risk of being kind means sometimes being cheated. yes 20 cents is a small sum. but this was never about the money! AND I NEVER IMPLIED THAT THE LESSON I WAS GOING TO TAKE FROM THIS WAS "I WILL NEVER AGAIN BE KIND TO ANYONE". that was how you somehow interpreted my meaning. I just vowed to open my eyes a little wider. i said over and over and I MAINTAIN THAT handing over 20 cents would NOT have been foolish, and i would NOT have FELT foolish, IF THIS GUY HAD AT LEAST BEEN A GOOD ACTOR AND REALLY LOOKED GENUINELY IN NEED OF HELP. i maintain that HE DIDN'T, AND I MISSED IT WHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLAIN FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. i am upset over how i fall short in the powers of observation department. and i am upset about how i ALWAYS fall short in the observation department while everyone else around me at the time says, "you didn't notice??" AS I SAID BEFORE, this is NOT THE FIRST TIME i have missed an OBVIOUS con job. and i am kicking myself for still not being more observant. THAT'S ALL! SIMPLE, RIGHT?
it's not because he called me a fool that i feel foolish. ppl say nasty things about me all the time. i can shrug it off. hearing him say i was stupid just made me realise too late that i had missed all the OBVIOUS SIGNS that he was a cheat. THAT made me feel stupid. but if there were NO SIGNS and anyone could have fallen for his act, then i wouldn't feel bad about it and i would be doing that "congratulating yourself on being a good person" nonsense that you 'recommend'. good people don't have to be stupid. one can congratulate themselves on being a good person but still vow to be a bit wiser. i do not see the two as mutually exclusive, and as this has happened often enough, i am through with merely congratulating myself. i'm going to LEARN THIS TIME, goddammit! (and "learning" does NOT equate to being closed off to all needy ppl henceforth)
y'know i'm spending a lot of time agonising over this only because i keep having to explain to you what i'm actually upset about coz you don't get it! you're practically pulling a ziggy on me. making pronouncements on what "i am" when you are actually misunderstanding the point entirely? please! and if this explanation is still not clear, then i really don't know how else to put it to you, and i honestly don't want to bother anymore. coz if there's anything i hate almost as much as being fooled, is being misunderstood and put on the defensive. and let's not kid ourselves: you ARE being very offensive right now.
CatOwner sorry to everyone else who keeps getting notifications on this thread.
SieteOcho I haven't misunderstood you CatOwner. I know your point of view, I just don't agree with it. I don't regret giving money to beggars, and I don't even think that you should vet them, which is why I think the issue of being "cheated" or being "too blind to realise he's a thief" is not an issue at all. For me at least, 20c is not worth giving a second thought about.
I've put forward a few less gloomy ways to look at things, and you've just rejected them all. The point is not that you're being calculating. This is not a microcosm of other things that are going on in your life. You made an economic decision about 20c, you were given 3 seconds to make it, you made a mistake, and suddenly you're stupid? Good lord. If you had to get every single such decision right you'd have no time and energy left to do anything.
The point (and this is not a trivial point at all - many people including myself sometimes never learn) is: some things are just not worth giving a damn about.