Man U fandom
I met a friend who was wondering what happened to Man U... he got upset that people always made fun of Man U. I never truly understood the fandom business.
For me the Man U thing started to go south around the time that Alex Ferguson sold Ronaldo for a lot of money back then. He had won the UEFA Champions League with Man U – why would he think that Real Madrid were a bigger club? But they were. And at that time Real Madrid were on the wane. They had sold Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben to clubs that would win the UCL with those players in the side. But eventually Ronaldo would triumph and win 4 UCL titles.
From then, the 2008 vintage was taken apart piece by piece, without adequate replacements. At least Van Der Sar had a good enough replacement in David De Gea. But then one by one, the old guard left. Rooney, Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic, Nani, Van Persie, Michael Carrick, Jonny Evans. The players who came in were not at the same level. Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes were recalled in their mid-30s for duty.
The David Moyes era was a very damaging one for the club, first because Moyes and Woodard came in at the same time. Not only was there discontinuity with the manager, but also discontinuity with the CEO running football operations. And also there would be a discontinuity with the players.
One of the most galling seasons ever was the 13-14 season. I knew that it would be a long time before Man U won the league again, but for them to be almost a mid table team was such a dramatic fall from grace. United went from being a club who could always get who they wanted to a club who failed to land all their targets. They paid over the odds for bad acquisitions – Angel di Maria, Falcao, Anthony Martial. They turned great players into mediocre ones, like Paul Pogba, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Luke Shaw and Alexis Sanchez
They had bad scouting, bad recruitment, and an overall lack of strategy on the pitch. We could go into the Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solskjaar eras, but overall the picture was one where there wasn't a grand strategy on the football side of things. It's almost as though Alex Ferguson did several things so well that there wasn't anybody who could replace him when he was gone. Another manager who was extremely damaging was Erik Ten Hag, who came in with a great reputation for taking Ajax to the last 4 of the Champions League, but paid outrageous sums of money for underperforming players and left United with a very bad squad.
United had a a few blips in form before, such as during 2001 to 2006 when they won “only” one premier league title and were threatening to become a mediocre side. For me that was epitomised by two things. One was their inability to replace Schmeichel. They tried various people Taibbi, Bosnich, Barthez, Carroll and Tim Howard. None were particularly convincing, until they landed Van Der Sar. The other thing was the summer where they got in Veron and Van Nistlerooy. They were good players. Van Nistlerooy did very well as an individual, but whether he made Man U better was quite questionable. Veron was simply a misfit for the English league, because he went to Argentina and just made them better.
But somehow they managed to get Carrick, Hargreaves, Vidic, Evra and Van Der Sar in to build the spine of their last great side. I don't know who gets the credit for that. The downside is that they got saddled with the Glazers, who were clearly in the asset stripping business.
So that was the situation that that late great Man U side were in – things were good. The new recruits gelled well with the class of 99 veterans and the ones who came in during the lean years – Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Rooney and Saha. They had some help from Hendrik Larsson, who was on a roll – he helped Barcelona win the UCL, then helped Man U win the EPL the next season.
But that Indian summer started to crumble. Even when they sealed their title in 2011, I knew that Man U were weakening. A lot of their new recruits weren't terrible, but they weren't as great as the last great team. There was Fabio and Rafael, Anderson, Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Chicharito, Danny Welbeck, Robin Van Persie was great for 1 season before it was time for him to wane. But back then we couldn't have known that Man U were going to mess up so badly.
And another angle was that a lot of the former players who were from their teams who got media work. Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Rio Ferdinand, Owen Hargreaves. Every player who was in the same room as Alex Ferguson seemed to be touched with greatness, but most of them turned out to be mediocre managers: the ones who had careers were Gordon Strachan, Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes. And the ones who tried were Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke, Paul Ince, Wayne Rooney, Phil Neville, It turns out that Pep Guardiola is better at nurturing football coaching talent than Alex Ferguson is, because Pep Guardiola nurtures hard skills whereas Alex Ferguson excels at the soft skills, which are harder to transfer.
The problem with having a lot of the old guard in the media is that after a while, a lot of the things that made them great will fade away. Gary Neville used to provide a lot of great analysis, but soon learnt that other people on youtube did it better. Then invariably the things they would talk about be about griping about how their once-great club has fallen on hard times. It would toxicify the conversation.
I saw it happen to Arsenal, during the period from 2016 to 2021 when they were the butt of jokes. The most toxic part about Arsenal was that they were a club in gradual decline, and there would be a long period when they had to be satisfied with finishing in the champions league places and then getting knocked out of the last 16 in the UCL. I think that this “managed decline” was much better than what happened to Man United, but still not very satisfying, until Arteta brought them back from missing out on the champions league to “finishing second all the time”.
Liverpool were always a good side, but there were 2 period when it was hard to watch. The Souness years and the Hodgson years. It was a lucky thing they had Jurgen Klopp coming in the save the day.
The thing I didn't understand about that friend who was a united fan was – he was one of those who switched to United around the time when United started winning big trophies, and people thought of them as glory hunters. It's a good thing that he stuck around. But you knew that the rot was setting in – why didn't you abandon hope and stop supporting that club? Because it's not your hometown club, you don't really owe them any loyalty. You supported a club because of the friends and the contacts.
Supporting a club is a very passive activity. It's one of the most passive activities of all, which is why I question why anybody at all would do it.
Liverpool are a club in danger because – even though you know that Arne Slot has done well with the team that Klopp left behind, you don't know where their future success is going to come from. And there are new challengers like Aston Villa, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest and Bournemouth who are biting at the heels and challenging for champions league places.
Well, I don't know what would have happened to my Arsenal fandom if Arteta hadn't come in to revive my club. All I know is that a lot of my milestones in life have come at a time when they won the league, and I'm always hoping that they'll do it again, and we'll see what kind of milestone I'll hit in life next.
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